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Post by Learned Hand on Apr 11, 2007 23:27:44 GMT
Is, I maintain, easily doable. And frankly, if BSR tells us we can play amusingly powerful sentient dinosaurs with opposable thumbs, but not for another 6 months, well that's just cruel. Who's with me?
As for paths and excellencies, here's my proposal. All the paths have 0-2 dice adder charms in them.
We can either keep it as it, say that the DKs don't have reliable excellencies because they're prototypes.
OR, we can cut all of the dice adder charms out, match up each path to 2 or 3 abilities, and say that an excellency in at least one of those abilities acts as the first step in the path.
Those paths with 1 dice adder will lose one step on the path and gain one step - no problem. Those with 2 will have one step too few - we can write a new one without too much difficulty. Those with none will have one step too many. We'll cut one out.
Here are the path and ability match ups as I see them. A lot of these are fairly arbitrary but hey
celestial air: socialise; occult; bureacracy
clear air: investigation; lore; awareness
Solid Earth: Resistance; War
Yielding Earth: Craft; Medicine
Blazing Fire: Thrown; Presence; Integrity
Flickering Fire; Melee; Martial Arts; Dodge
Flowing Water; Athletics; Sail
Shimmering water: Larceny; Stealth; Performance
Growing Wood; Archery; Linguistics
Shaping Wood; Survival; Ride
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Post by johandenerad on Apr 12, 2007 11:13:32 GMT
We can either keep it as it, say that the DKs don't have reliable excellencies because they're prototypes. I'd go with this. I don't think Dragon Kings would have dice adders for everything as they're not good at everything, each path tends to have quite a narrow focus. On a purely munchkin note, most of the dice adders they do have are a shit-ton better than excellencies at high levels. |
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Post by Learned Hand on Apr 12, 2007 11:31:46 GMT
That also gets my vote, for the record
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Post by Blackrat on Apr 12, 2007 12:08:42 GMT
Is, I maintain, easily doable. And frankly, if BSR tells us we can play amusingly powerful sentient dinosaurs with opposable thumbs, but not for another 6 months, well that's just cruel. Who's with me? Not I - the sooner it starts, the less likely I am to be able to play!  |
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Post by scarletharlot on Apr 12, 2007 12:26:43 GMT
Well we could just wake BR up in a couple of months. I like the paths. I think it's a bit crap that Dragon Kings aren't meant to be good at performance, for example, so I like your suggestion that we get them all in there. Not that I especially need my character to be able to ballet dance, but since the southerner lot are more priestly, it'd make praying v v hard - as you need seven sucesses and all (though Anklok's might all count as priests to dragon king gods, so maybe just 6)
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Post by bravesirrobin on Apr 12, 2007 13:33:46 GMT
Well we could just wake BR up in a couple of months. I like the paths. I think it's a bit crap that Dragon Kings aren't meant to be good at performance, for example, so I like your suggestion that we get them all in there. Not that I especially need my character to be able to ballet dance, but since the southerner lot are more priestly, it'd make praying v v hard - as you need seven sucesses and all (though Anklok's might all count as priests to dragon king gods, so maybe just 6) I think they should have excellencies they are prottypes for Exalts, which is why they have paths and not charm trees, but they were still created after the gods, and they have excellencies. Anklok's don't all count as priests sadly. And mostly they pray to the Unconquered Sun. |
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Post by scarletharlot on Apr 12, 2007 13:48:14 GMT
Woe alas. Zenith, Midnight, No Moon castes and ALL sidereals are priests..what do you mean we aren't celestial exalted? If I declare myself a priest of the unconquered sun then do I just need six successes to have him directly hear my prayer? That'd be ace. I could bug him all the time.
It's nice having the excellancies within and capped by paths though...
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Post by bravesirrobin on Apr 12, 2007 13:53:29 GMT
I think priest is a 1-pt merit.
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Post by scarletharlot on Apr 12, 2007 13:56:12 GMT
But will the Unconquered Sun be my best mate?
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Post by bravesirrobin on Apr 12, 2007 19:39:31 GMT
No. That would take the 7 point version of the merit. I thought about taking that for Jason, but it's just not very cool.
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Post by scarletharlot on Apr 13, 2007 11:03:05 GMT
7pt merit and the unconquered sun is your best mate? 10 pt for gaia? hehe. That's a ludicrous merit, well unless you're a convincing Zenith caste.
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Post by bravesirrobin on Apr 13, 2007 14:31:40 GMT
6pt if your a zenith.
you don't get to choose the god, it's sort of automatically whichever god your most closely associated with. it's a flat rate merit.
1pt to be a priest. zenith castes and all sidereals get it automatically. 6 extra points to be like a high priest or something.
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Post by johandenerad on Apr 14, 2007 1:40:49 GMT
I think they should have excellencies they are prottypes for Exalts, which is why they have paths and not charm trees, but they were still created after the gods, and they have excellencies. I think Dragon Kings should lack excellencies because they shouldn't be good at everything. If they're prototypes, then can be missing a lot of things that later models have. |
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Post by bravesirrobin on Apr 14, 2007 8:46:38 GMT
I think they should have excellencies they are prottypes for Exalts, which is why they have paths and not charm trees, but they were still created after the gods, and they have excellencies. I think Dragon Kings should lack excellencies because they shouldn't be good at everything. If they're prototypes, then can be missing a lot of things that later models have. i understand that point. and i don't disagree, but i love dragon kings, i'm the ST and I want them to have excellencies. |
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Post by Learned Hand on Apr 15, 2007 8:42:38 GMT
Although, as JD has pointed out, they're less good than the currend dice-adders and so effectively weaken the DKs? (whilst making them more well-rounded, admittedly)
Also, if we go with the excellency/path structure, will the excellencies be cheaper since they're so many of them and they're nothing like as good as paths?
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